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Randall Mills and the great “disruptive innovation.”

“The Russians will soon make LENR (or ‘Cold Nuclear Transmutation’ as it is known in Russia) an officially publicly recognised science… … and a number of their scientists have already recognised Mills for the genius he is, and the implications GUT-CP will have for our species (PhilosophyStorm.org/Koroeada)… three questions to the Kremlin:-
1) Do you know what this technology was used for?
2) How much research have you secretly conducted on it?
3)… are you going to pay for it?

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Randall Mills and the great “disruptive innovation.”

As you know, the term “disruptive innovation” was introduced into science by Professor Clayton Christensen of Harvard Business School back in 1997, in his book “The Innovator’s Dilemma: How Strong Companies Perish because of New Technologies”. At the moment, it is a kind of “cornerstone”, “track star” in the global venture capital industry. Christensen classified innovations as “improving” (gradual improvement of old technologies) and “disruptive” (fundamentally changing, devaluing and replacing old ones).

The history of mankind, both in the past and in the settled decades, is replete with examples of such disruptive innovations.

Gunpowder and firearms based on it supplanted the bow and arrows, the emergence of a steam engine led to the disappearance of sailing ships, internal combustion engines finally “finished off” horse-drawn traction, the invention of refrigerators destroyed the ice-making business, and how many candle factories did the light bulb destroy?
Cell phones almost crowded out wired landlines, e-mail drastically reduced the amount of paper correspondence, “electronic” books are increasingly replacing paper ones, photo technology has almost completely become digital …

This list can be continued for a long time. At the same time, the emergence of a new technology does not necessarily mean the immediate disappearance of the previous one due to its inefficiency. For example, the steam engine and the internal combustion engine coexisted for a long time, while the engine was still not perfect enough, and the steam engine had the opportunity to further increase its efficiency. But this is only the technological aspect of the problem. A much more complicated problem is the problem of the social consequences of this kind of innovation.

Innovations are not immediately radically changing human life. Many “outdated” things remain in demand simply because of the conservatism and low adaptability of a large mass of people. With age, it generally becomes extremely difficult to master the ever-increasing volume of new products. For example, for those who are used to reading books in their “classic” form, to feel their color, volume, and even smell, the choice will almost always be in favor of the paper version. So the printing industry will exist for a long time. However, over time, the process of changing generations will finally take the paper book out of use. While there is still time. But soon the technology of printing will finally be a thing of the past.

The most difficult problem is the problem of the released labor force. In printing, as in its time and in the procurement of ice, not so much workforce is employed. In the case of cab drivers, everything was more complicated. Many of them have not moved to the “iron horses”. It is possible that soon the driver’s profession will start to disappear altogether due to the massive introduction of unmanned vehicles. Where to put the ever-increasing mass of the unemployed? This is an old problem, known since the French proletarians, who were small artisans yesterday, were throwing their wooden shoes (clogs) into the complex mechanisms of factory-made machines. Sabotage has become a common form of social protest against technological progress. A modern, equally ridiculous example is the taxi riot against Uber.

A significant part of the people freed from the old industries will still be able to adapt, and the more perfect the system of governance, education and social support in the country, the less painful the adaptation process will be. The main thing is that these social systems cope with the “volumes” qualitatively. But what will happen if these volumes increase critically?

The era of subsistence farming in most of the planet is a thing of the past. The division of labor has reached its maximum, and has become global. As a result of this process, a large group of countries has emerged, whose well-being largely, if not critically, depends on world market demand and the price of a single commodity. For example, oil. Venezuela and Iran, Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates, Nigeria and Kuwait. This is a long list of countries. “Black gold” became for them both a great gift and a great curse, since it largely determined the model of socio-economic development. Until recently, these countries were swimming in the flows of petrodollars. Now, after a significant drop in oil prices, the situation has changed, but for now it is not so critical. But what happens if the demand for oil begins to decline even more rapidly? What will happen if whole countries start to be “released” from the world market division of labor? On the example of what is happening in today’s Venezuela, we see possible scenarios …
What will happen if the process of displacing fossil fuels from the global energy balance begins to accelerate, and an avalanche? And such a scenario seems increasingly likely, and here’s why.

To date, the transition to alternative oil sources of energy has been complicated mainly by the inefficiency of alternatives. All alternative oil technologies could hardly be called “disruptive.” Neither solar, nor wind, nor geothermal, nor even atomic energy was a serious alternative to oil, at least on a planetary scale. But in the coming years, the situation may change radically.

October 26, 2016 there was quite an ordinary event. In a small room, designed only for a small audience for interested persons, Brilliant Light Power presented the latest, industrial design of the Sansell reactor (solar cell, SunCell). It was another presentation of an improved prototype, which the company has been conducting regularly since January 2014. It is important to note that this time the company positioned the sample of the reactor as an industrial prototype, that is, almost ready for testing and subsequent mass production. That is, able to work constantly, 24 * 7 * 365.

The appearance of Sunsell became possible as a result of the long and persistent efforts of the head of the company, Dr. Randall Mills. The result of a long, twenty-five years of work. The work is both practical and theoretical, since Sunsell is based on a completely new physical theory called “The Grand Unified Theory of Classical Physics” (GUT-CP) by Dr. Mills, “The Big Unified Theory of Classical Physics”. It is characteristic that the Mills theory fundamentally contradicts the currently dominant physical theory — quantum mechanics. However, Dr. Mills considers quantum mechanics “just a bad theory.” Well, he can afford it, since he proposed a much more effective alternative.

In addition to a number of others, the most important theoretical discovery of GUT-CP’s theory by Dr. Mills was the idea of ​​hydrino — a particularly compact state of the hydrogen atom, which is essentially the so-called “dark matter” in our Universe. The transformation of ordinary hydrogen into hydrino occurs during the so-called BLP process (BLP-process), a special catalytic process, with an output of enormous energy, hundreds of times greater than when burning hydrogen. The voron – argon mixture is used as a “fuel,” and molten silver is used as a catalyst. The product of the transformation of hydrogen into hydrino is the so-called “hydrino gas”. Extremely light and inert in its chemical properties, it cannot be held by gravity, as a result of which it is carried off into space.

Due to the fact that the emitted radiation is mainly in the invisible range (ultraviolet), it can not be absorbed by solar panels directly. Therefore, the design of the reactor uses the so-called “black body”, a graphite sphere, which absorbs ultraviolet light and emits it already in the visible range, suitable for operating the most efficient three-layer solar panels.

In turn, solar panels serve as a kind of compact “Dyson sphere”, absorbing the energy of thousands of suns.
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It is noteworthy that the reactor has a very simple design, with a minimum of moving parts. For example, two electromagnetic pumps are used as pumps for molten silver, as well as a “liquid electrode” modulator, so that opposite jets of melted silver converge in opposition in the center of a hot sphere (there is a video of the process on the digging site). This design makes the reactor cheap, simple and almost maintenance free. The main factor both in price and durability of the reactor is solar panels. At the moment, it is planned to use solar panels by Masimo (Masimo semiconductor), with a thirty-year history of work in this area. The declared life of the solar panels is more than 20 years.
Thus, the twenty-five-year work of Mills achieved the goal: confirmation of the correctness of his theory, its practical embodiment was a compact, and incredibly powerful source of energy. Which, according to the announced plan, should enter the market after industrial testing, in the second half of 2017.

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Fig. from http://brilliantlightpower.com/

Now, back to the original question of this article: Is the Sunsell technology a so-called “disruptive innovation”? An innovation that can drastically change the face of the entire energy industry, and of the planet as a whole?

That is the goal stated by Dr. Randall Mills. And it seems that he is right. Because, at the moment there is no other source of energy so compact, so powerful, so cheap. Of course, it is a brilliant alternative to fossil fuels that can replace it in the vast majority of areas. Finally, humanity will stop, in the words of the great Russian chemist Mendeleev, “drown the stove with banknotes”, burning the most valuable mineral raw materials, and at the same time polluting the earth’s atmosphere. And this is a matter of time.
But this is the main question: what time? And what social and economic consequences will result from the introduction of this truly great innovation?

Of course, the main thing that awaits us is the “great infrastructure transition,” on a planetary scale. This is a question of quite a long time, perhaps several decades. Of course, fossil fuels will not be squeezed out of the energy market tomorrow. But in the perspective of 10-15 years, it will begin to happen inevitably. And the farther, the more, and over time, the process of introducing a new technology will acquire an avalanche-like character, causing not only fundamental technological, but also social changes. Preserving smoothness and stability during this transition is a complex managerial task on a global scale that requires both comprehensive thinking and the creation of international mechanisms that facilitate the transition, compensating for possible negative socio-economic consequences, especially in “oil” countries.

There is still time, and it is necessary to use it. This is especially true of the “oil” countries, which are well prepared for the possible socio-economic turbulence caused by structural changes in the economy. As Steven Chu, an American physicist and Nobel Prize winner, former US Secretary of Energy in the United States, said, “the Stone Age did not end because humanity ended up with stones,” meaning that the oil age would end not because oil would end. Looks like he was right.
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Futurist Dr. Randell Mills Talks SunCell, Off-Grid Power, And The Future Of Job Creation (Huffington Post 2017)

“‘Futurist’?… i.e. someone who actually gives a shit about tomorrow? Cares about  the fate of their own species?… Someone who isn’t infanticidal? :/
My philosophy when it comes the future of humanity is quite simple… if you aren’t down for creating a world free of tyranny, a civilisation in harmony with nature and the laws of nature, where every man, woman and child is free to prosper and pursue their own interests with no burdens or restrictions… … FUCK OFF AND FIND ANOTHER ONE!… … … I’m like Jor-El” 😀

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“the applications of limitless unbounded energy are only constrained by human imagination, ingenuity and ambition” – Dr Randell Mills

Futurist Dr. Randell Mills Talks SunCell, Off-Grid Power, And The Future Of Job Creation

Jobs, Musk…Mills? Every now and then, a revolutionary thinker imagines a future the rest of us can’t, or in the case of Randell Mills, imagines technology that defies the laws of quantum mechanics. Initially mocked, Jobs retains a godlike status, even posthumously. And Musk, well, he’s proved skeptics wrong for years, and yet his talk of Hyperloop Pods traveling at hundreds of miles per hour under the streets of L.A. seems like fantasy to many.

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London! 😀

If there is one thing I’ve learned from working for and alongside hundreds of entrepreneurs over the last two decades it is this: pay attention to big thinkers whose ideas presently seem unimaginable, especially when these thinkers are determined to transform the world.

Give me the chance to connect with them personally, and I’m all in.

Not without his own skeptics, I recently had the chance to sit down with Mills and hear about his latest invention, the Sun Cell, which promises to bring clean and cheap energy to the world. As we chatted, I found myself imagining the possibilities and the potential. Lifting millions from poverty? Check. Tackling climate change. Check again.

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Paris! 😀

Mills says the SunCell works by generating electricity with hydrogen being converted to dark matter by using water in the air, and the reaction packs 200 times the energy of burning conventional gasoline. Sound too good to be true? Well, Mills is betting SunCell will soon be commercialized, and strategic investors are backing that bet. Brilliant Light Power (which Mills founded in 1991), has raised $120M to date and has recently completed a $20M funding round.

Imagine living in a world where the grid does not exist and where everyone has access to power, no matter who you are or what part of the world you live. That would be something else.

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Toronto! 😀

Rebekah Iliff: Do you consider yourself an inventor, an innovator, an entrepreneur, a social entrepreneur, or a futurist?

Randell Mills: All of the above. To do what I do, you not only need to be an inventor and a theorist but also have a firm comprehension of how to make things work in practice. When your goal is nothing less than delivering a power source greater than fire, your only choice is to be multi-faceted. Otherwise, you’re just making incremental improvements, not holistic leaps forward. High-energy dark-matter power as a business seems totally impractical. It is barely fathomable, so you’ve got to tackle theory, innovation, invention, and practical business simultaneously.

RI: You are a trained medical doctor. Why did you choose to focus on energy?

RM: If you look broadly at science and technology, one thing is ultimately connected to another, and energy just naturally called to me. In fact, I’ve invented in a number of different areas, including hydrogen energy technology, computational chemical design, magnetic resonance imaging, drug delivery, artificial intelligence and more. But there’s really no better opportunity to work on something that could be so profoundly disruptive.

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I don’t know! … Liverpool? 😀

“The ramifications of bringing cheap and clean energy to the world are transformational. Ultimately, I’m working to change our perception of the universe. So instead of having tunnel vision into a single aspect of quantum theory, I had to become a cross disciplinarian.” – Dr. Randell Mills

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Astana, Kazakhstan! I recognise the mall ‘Khan Shatyrr’ 😉 

RI: Explain the SunCell for dummies.

RM: It’s a massive lightbulb that is on 24/7 and produces cheap and clean energy from the hydrogen atoms of water. It’s lit by a reaction between of hydrogen of water molecules to dark matter using the humidity in the air as the water source. It’s over 1000 times as powerful as high-octane gasoline, and the power is directly converted to electricity using photovoltaic cells.

RI: What does the world look like when you’ve commercialized the SunCell?

RM: Everything will be powered by the SunCell. Solar, wind, bio fuels, and nuclear will all be replaced. The grid will be unnecessary. Utilities will be unnecessary. There would be no pollution and limited energy regulation. As the SunCell is fully autonomous, energy delivery becomes impervious to disruption from war, terror, and natural disaster. Importantly, underdeveloped countries will have the same potential lifestyle and productivity as the developed world. Each SunCell could also serve as a self-powered, autonomous node in a mesh network that could replace the Internet.

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Detroit!

RI: How would it impact jobs?

RM: Jobs are created by wealth. If you have something that encourages productivity, then there will be jobs. The SunCell encourages productivity by leveling and equally distributing the energy playing field for virtually anyone, anywhere. There is literature about GDP and energy dependency, and it’s very revealing in terms of how dependent we are on power.

RI: I know a lot of folks at your level would let ego get in the way. How do you stay grounded?

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That’s Manchester that! Northern Quarter

RM: My background is helpful. I didn’t come from the Ivy League. Most people in my life were not Harvard or MIT graduates. They weren’t captains of industry. They were honest and worked hard. I grew up on a farm in Cochranville, Pennsylvania, where life was very challenging and humbling. You earned an appreciation for dangerous equipment at an early age. I’ve interacted with all types of people from every stature in life, and I’ve always maintained that simple farmer’s perspective.

RI: What is your PR strategy around this? How do you plan on shifting the public opinion enough to override business as usual?

RM: We have a multi-pronged approach. We’re introducing state-of-the-art theory, science, and technology that astonishes experts with quantifiable and verifiable results in multiple scientific and technological fields, and we are building a machine with a story behind it that blows everyone else away. Within a couple months we should be ready to show its commercial potential.

RI: Any parting thoughts you’d like to share?

RM: I think the next “age” is an age where mankind has a manual of the universe and knows exactly how the universe works. We then begin to create previously unimaginable inventions by applying this manual and the newly discovered laws that come along with it. The next big future is the physical age.

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Hackney, East London

“Practically speaking, I think that beyond SunCell, visionaries like Elon Musk will introduce entirely new technologies that people haven’t even conceived of. The pace will only increase in the coming years, as we will see similar types of disruptive and enabling technologies come to market.” – Dr. Randell Mills

 

 

“I Googled ‘Future Jerusalem’… erm?” :/

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ARTICLE – Randell L. Mills – A Living Legend, Greater Than Einstein and Tesla Combined (The Tesla scenario… It will NOT happen again!)

“History doesn’t repeat itself, but it often rhymes” – attributed to Mark Twain, but source unknown
“Well, I’m going to ensure that the track is changed!” – Daniel Hurley

Not many individuals in this line of inquiry compare Randell Mills to Nikola Tesla, but the comparisons are there (which is why I am highly suspicious of CIA involvement, and investments from certain institutions). The story of Dr Randell Mills is unprecedented in history, and for various sociological and philosophical reasons it is still being ignored. Nikola Tesla should have gone down in history as the greatest scientist/inventor of the 20th century. He had unlocked the secrets of ‘free energy’, his work could have paved the way for a new course for technological human civilisation, and he should be being taught in every school and University on the planet today…. … but ‘the powers that be’ sanitized him from history. Only now are a small number of people realising the significance of this mans contributions to 20th century science… THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN WITH RANDELL MILLS! Not in the 21st century, the age of the internet, and not as long as I’m alive… I will dedicate my life to ensuring this mans work, his inventions and his contributions to our understanding of the atom, of the Universe, and of reality, WILL become mainstream textbook taught science.

My children will be taught Dr. Randell Mills’ Grand Unified Theory Of Classical Physics… … ALL CHILDREN WILL!

Randell L. Mills – A Living Legend, Greater Than Einstein and Tesla Combined

by Michael Suede • July 12, 2016
Being alive at the end of the twentieth century here on planet Insanity has afforded us a few special privileges in the observance of human history. We’ve seen the birth of the microprocessor, the creation of the internet, and other technological marvels that have vastly improved the quality of the human condition for billions of people.

Unfortunately, even with all of our modern technological advancements, there’s still a huge number of people living in extreme poverty. Most of the poverty can be directly linked to a lack of cheap and abundant energy. According to the IEA, “Modern energy services are crucial to human well-being and to a country’s economic development; and yet globally 1.2 billion people are without access to electricity and more than 2.7 billion people are without clean cooking facilities. More than 95% of these people are either in sub-Saharan African or developing Asia, and around 80% are in rural areas.”

Even in many places with access to power, it’s not cheap enough or abundant enough to lift the population above the poverty line. Access to energy is the defining limit on the ability of any given population to pull itself out of poverty by increasing its productive capacity.

All real wealth comes from the ground. Wealth starts as raw materials that are transformed by human intervention into usable goods that improve the quality of the human condition. Extracting and transforming resources from the planet takes a tremendous amount of energy. The cheaper and more abundant the energy resources at our disposal, the cheaper and easier it is to extract and transform resources; which ultimately means cheaper and more abundant goods and services for all of humanity.
For most of human history, the energy to transform resources has come from our own manual labor, the leverage of simple manual tools, and of course – fire. Even today, we live in what could still broadly be categorized as the combustion age. We use combustion to produce the vast majority of energy on the planet, and it’s still by far the cheapest means of producing energy yet available to man. We burn coal and oil to power our homes and factories, we burn gasoline to power our cars and planes, we burn crude oil to power our tankers and shipping; it’s all a big bloody burning mess.

Numerous wars and insurrections have been fought over the control of energy resources, and all the while, the power grid acts as a control grid that forces massive swaths of people to herd together into compact concrete jungles. The human condition on planet Insanity is so intimately linked with the production of power that we use the same word to describe everything from politics to finance to the performance of an engine – Power.

Imagine what the planet would look like if every person had access to a compact generator that was capable of providing enough energy to power a small factory, while requiring no fuel, producing no pollution, requiring virtually no maintenance for decades, and being portable enough to fit in a small vehicle. It’s hard to fathom because the potential for invention and mobility becomes nearly limitless. People could live comfortably in the middle of the ocean or in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference. Homes could be flying recreational vehicles that never have to land. Cars could be airplanes and airplanes could be transformed into space vehicles. With such an invention, we could even colonize the inner planets of the solar system.

With such an invention, the power grid becomes obsolete. Humans become untethered to the entire utility grid, water and sewage included. Water could be pulled from the air or desalinated from the oceans. Trash and sewage could be incinerated on demand. Unlimited personal power brings with it virtually limitless potential. Unlimited personal power brings with it virtually limitless freedom.

I’m telling you now that such an invention exists, and in the next year or so, it’s going to change the face of humanity forever.

Dr. Randell L. Mills, a Harvard trained medical doctor, who developed this generator and the physical theory behind it, will be remembered throughout the remainder of human history as the single greatest being to ever have lived. A billion trillion years from now, people will still be discussing his theories and his invention. Mills invention is no less transformative than the discovery of fire. It’s a far greater achievement than the combustion engine or the telephone.

In one fell swoop, Mills will have overturned the standing theories of physics, dismantled the power grid, put an end to virtually all air pollution, put an end to poverty, put an end to wars over energy resources, opened up the entire planet to human habitation, put a serious dent in the ability of politics to control people, and saved limitless lives in the future due to a lack of power.

To be alive at the same time as Mills is a cosmic treat. The man is a living legend that has yet to be recognized. Like all great transformative scientists before him, academia has viciously attacked him, his theories and his company, on both a personal and professional level. Mills is truly the modern day Galileo. Like Mills, Galileo was viciously attacked by academia for his ideas, even though they are basis for all modern science today, to the point where Galileo spent the last days of his life under house arrest for scientific heresy.

Here’s what mainstream science has had to say about Mills and his work. I feel compelled to copy and paste this here for posterity, because once Mills’ generator hits the market, these comments are sure to be flushed down the memory hole. Brilliant Light Power (formerly Black Light Power) is the name of Mills’ company that’s producing the generator and doing the research. The following is taken from Brilliant Light Power’s wiki page, which Brilliant Light obviously has no control over (think about that for a minute, a company that’s prohibited from editing it’s own wiki page highlights just how terrified academics are of Mills and his theories):

Robert L. Park
Since 1999 Robert L. Park, emeritus professor of physics at the University of Maryland and a notable skeptic, has been particularly critical of BLP. In 2008 Park wrote:
“BlackLight Power (BLP), founded 17 years ago as HydroCatalysis, announced last week that the company had successfully tested a prototype power system that would generate 50 KW of thermal power. BLP anticipates delivery of the new power system in 12 to 18 months. The BLP process,[35]discovered by Randy Mills, is said to coax hydrogen atoms into a “state below the ground state”, called the “hydrino.” There is no independent scientific confirmation of the hydrino, and BLP has a patent problem. So they have nothing to sell but bull shit. The company is therefore dependent on investors with deep pockets and shallow brains.” – Park[36]
Steven Chu
In 1999, Steven Chu, Nobel Laureate in Physics in 1997, said “it’s extremely unlikely that this is real, and I feel sorry for the funders, the people who are backing this”.[7]

Phillip Anderson
In 1999, Princeton University’s physics Nobel laureate Phillip Anderson said of it, “If you could fuck around with the hydrogen atom, you could fuck around with the energy process in the sun. You could fuck around with life itself.” “Everything we know about everything would be a bunch of nonsense. That’s why I’m so sure that it’s a fraud.”[6]

Wolfgang Ketterle
Wolfgang Ketterle, a professor of physics at MIT, said BLP’s claims are “nonsense” and that “there is no state of hydrogen lower than the ground state”.[8]

Michio Kaku
Michio Kaku, a theoretical physicist based at City University of New York, adds that “the only law that this business with Mills is proving is that a fool and his money are easily parted.”[6] and that “There’s a sucker born every minute.”[7]

Peter Zimmerman
While Peter Zimmerman was chief arms-control scientist at the State Department, he stated that his department and the Patent Office “have fought back with success” against “pseudoscientists” and he railed against, among other things, the inventors of “hydrinos.”[37]

Forbes attacked him, saying, “This case has many things in common with other failed new energy technologies, including a charismatic leader who generates lots of press, claims of academic validation and criticism of expert skepticism, ample fundraising, and frequent reports of interest from potential buyers. What you don’t find are actual ongoing operation of a power plant outside of demonstration models controlled by the promoter.”

The IEEE attacked him, calling him a loser. And of course, countless internet trolls have attacked him and his company over all the scientific forums scattered across the internet. People have been banned simply for posting about Mills and his theories on sites like physicsforums.com and the Reddit science boards. You can’t even discuss his theories on the major science forums without risking an immediate ban.

Academics typically don’t even bother commenting on theories that have no scientific merit, so when you see this level of vitriol over Mills’ theories, it stands to reason it’s being driven by fear, not by a genuine motivation to seek the truth.

I’ve stated numerous times on this site over the past decade that modern physics is fundamentally flawed. It is not tied to reality. Mills theory takes physics back to its roots. It does away with all the imaginary particles and nonsense that make up the basis of quantum mechanics. Mills theory is based on closed form classical physics, which treats the electron as singular entity that can be modeled and calculated in precise detail. Mills theory allows for the precise calculation of molecular shapes and bond strengths, and will transform the way material sciences are conducted in the future.

Taking away all the imaginary particles and physics demystifies quantum mechanics. With Mills’ theory, theoretical physicists are no longer needed, and their positions as the high priests of science are directly threatened. It’s little wonder they hate Mills so much. Eventually the theoretical people will be shunted to the side like most religions have been today. Make no mistake, theoretical physics is a religion, not a science. It’s incredibly hard to change people’s’ religious view points since they aren’t based on evidence or logical reasoning.

To put Mills work in perspective, the Tokamak ITER fusion reactor has had 14 billion dollars of public funding thrown at it with no results to show for it. Further, to quote wiki, “the ITER is not designed to produce electricity, but made as a proof of concept reactor for the later DEMO project.” So 14 billion just to build a proof-of-concept.
Mills has taken less than 100 million of private investment capital over less time than the ITER to go from theory, to concept, to design, and now on to actual power production, with less than a tenth of the resources. Further, the ITER will obviously be abandoned after Mills generator goes into production, resulting in 14 billion dollars of public money being flushed down the toilet to feed the pocket books of academics and state contractors. The academics and contractors are the real scam artists in this melodrama. Perhaps that’s another reason they attack Mills with such ferocity, they are having a bit of Freudian projection going on within themselves.

So let’s talk a little bit about the generator itself. In simple terms, it works by reacting a very tiny amount of hydrogen with a silver catalyst and then exposing that reaction to an electrical discharge. When the hydrogen, silver and electrical discharge combine, the hydrogen atoms shrink, releasing a tremendous amount of energy in the process. Using Mills process, a gallon of water has the same energy potential of around 2000 gallons of gasoline. The amount of hydrogen needed is so small that the generator can pull the hydrogen it needs from water in the surrounding air. This enormous release of energy is then used to basically form the filament of a carbon light bulb.

The carbon light bulb glows so brightly from the heat that it reaches the equivalent brightness of over 2000 suns, with the potential to go even higher in the future. The light bulb is surrounded by an array of special solar cells called concentrator solar cells that are able to harness the energy from this enormously bright light source. These special solar cells already exist and are in use in solar farms around the world today.

Mills is projecting his initial generators to produce around 150 kw of power, with the potential for much higher amounts in the future, and the ability to chain multiple units together to provide huge amounts of power. He projects around 600 or so dollars per unit in materials costs to produce the unit, with the unit weighing far less than a conventional gasoline engine at around the same size. He also says production of the units can be scaled up to near infinite capacity, allowing a tremendous number of these units to be produced for next to nothing, using the same format as current LED production uses today.
Mills already has the “light bulb” portion of this generator fully prototyped and working. Obviously that’s the hard part since the rest of the parts for the generator already exist from off-the-shelf suppliers. Mills is projecting production units to be ready for delivery by the second half of 2017, with a fully prototyped working generator ready for field testing by the first half of 2017. Once Mills rolls out that first generator, be prepared for a monumental media shit storm to hit the public.

You can read the latest press release from Brilliant Light Power here, and watch the “light bulb” in action below.

I’ve been following BLP closely for nearly a decade now. I’m convinced Mills is the real deal. Contrary to what Forbes claims, numerous independent labs have verified his claims. He’s obtained funding from some of the wealthiest people on the planet, and he’s got a highly skilled team of engineers backing him. He doesn’t need any more investment capital so he’s got no reason to lie. Several university labs and independent investigators have replicated and validated Mills work:

Rowan University’s report
Rowan University’s report II
UNC Asheville’s report
University of Illinois report

It’s also worth taking a look at Brilliant Light’s board of directors. These people don’t strike me as the type of people who are willing to throw their lives away over fraud charges:

H. McIntyre Gardner’s profile from Bloomberg:
Chairman of Spirit Airlines
Chairman of Merrill Lynch Bank USA
Chairman of Merrill Lynch Life Insurance Company and Transamerica Advisors Life Insurance Company of New York
Director of Isola Group, SARL
President of the Board of Trustees at the Princeton Charter School

James E. Canty J.D.’s profile from Bloomberg:
President and General Counsel at Clough Capital Partners
Associate General Counsel, Corporate Secretary, and Director of Investor Relations at Converse Inc.
Corporate and Securities Lawyer at Goldstein & Manello
Certified Public Accountant at KPMG

John J. Gillen’s profile from Bloomberg:
Global Director of Finance at Towers Perrin
Chief Financial Officer and Senior Vice President of Dayton Power and Light Co.
Partner, PricewaterhouseCoopers
Member of the Office of the Chief Accountant of the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission

Jeremy Hux’s article from Yahoo Finance:
Managing director and global head of clean technology investment banking for Credit Suisse
President of HCP Advisors
Head of West Coast Clean Technology for Morgan Stanley

Barbara A. Nabial’s profile from Bloomberg:
Senior Audit Manager with Deloitte & Touche

And let’s not forget Mills, who has a Bachelor of Arts Degree in Chemistry, summa cum laude and Phi Beta Kappa from Franklin & Marshall College, and a Doctor of Medicine Degree from Harvard Medical School. He also did graduate engineering coursework at MIT.

At this point, it doesn’t matter what anyone may say about him. He’s going to market, and he’s going to change the world.

If you’d like to learn more about the backstory to Mills incredible scientific achievement, a book on the subject was recently released by one of his former employees.

Update 10/28/16:

Pretty crazy update from BLP today.

They refactored the SunCell to use dual liquid silver metal injectors for the electrodes, which solved the problem of the reaction being so strong that it was blowing holes through solid tungsten electrodes in just a few seconds.

What’s pretty crazy is they are reporting that they can actually shut the power off to the electrodes and the EM pump; yet the reaction will continue in a self-sustaining manner. You can actually see this take place in the video.

BLP states, “It is predicted that with sufficient silver vapor pressure, the power will persist by a self-sustaining hydrino reaction. Moreover, as designed, when the cell is operated as a silver boiler, the EM pump power may be terminated as well such that the parasitic load is zero except for the power consumed in electrolysis of water to provide the hydrogen fuel. In fact, the power did persist at the same level for long duration after the ignition power was terminated (See sections of the run indicated by the ignition-off video captions).”

Here’s a look at the reactor:
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Update 11/2/2016:

I just read through the latest BrLP presentation event notes and found their current planned development and production timeline. They are projecting the commercial units to produce 100 kW of power.

BrLP has contracted with Columbia Tech to have them do the prototype and manufacturing workups. CT’s Chief Technology Officer is projecting initial field testing of prototype units to take place in 6 months, with pilot commercial units available 6 months after initial field testing completes. Phase 1A design began on November 1st.

Masimo Semiconductor is responsible for creating the commercial photovoltaic converter comprising a denser receiver array of concentrator multijunction photovoltaic cells that will wrap around the black-body light source. Masimo’s Head of Business Development is projecting the photovoltaic array to be ready for the prototype field tests on time.

Looking at the slide notes from Masimo, they are projecting 15.5kW output for the first prototype, and 28.5kW for the second prototype.~

Here’s Masimo’s published timeline:

-Week 1: July 27, 2016…. Masimo Semi currently under TPV Cell contract and drawings
-Week 10: Oct 19, 2016…..Masimo Semi currently under gDRA prototype development contract
-Week 14: Nov 4, 2016…..1-Junction Cells on GaAs & InP complete
-Week 16: Nov 18, 2016….gDRA Prototype 3-D model complete
-Week 24: Jan 13, 2017….gDRA Prototype (1-J) Single TRU complete
-Week 28: Feb 17, 2017…. 2-Junction Cells on GaAs or InP complete (requires contract)
-Week 40: May 7, 2017….gDRA Prototype (2-Junction Cells) complete (requires contract)

So looking at the notes, Jan 13, 2017 is a big day because that’s the day the first geodesic Dense Receiver Array will be completed (gDRA). The gDRA is the photovoltaic dome that wraps around the black body light source. Once that’s done, we could see a self-sustaining prototype generator produce power for the first time not too long after that. So perhaps a fully working prototype will be wheeled out for a public demo sometime near the end of January or in February.

Update 11/4/2016:

Brilliant Light Power (BrLP) released video of their October 26th Industry Day, which I just discussed above.

Video 1: Colin Bannon, Chief Technology Officer for British Telecommunications, discusses BT’s energy usage and their desire for a clean source of power. [BT is an absolutely massive telecom corporation, with a market cap of around 36 billion. They are about half the size of Time Warner to put them in perspective.]

Video 2: Kert Davies, Executive Director of ClimateInvestigations.org, discusses energy production and global warming (feel free to skip this one.)

Video 3: Dr. Randell Mills gives a complete overview of how the SunCell works and the latest test data.

Video 4: Dr. Peter Jansson of Bucknell University speaks on the independent validation of the SunCell system.

Video 5: John DeCarlo of Columbia Tech discusses how their applied engineering team is working with BrLP on the prototype of the reactor assembly, as well as helping plan for mass production.

Video 6: Brad Siskavich of Masimo Semiconductor discusses their work on the photovoltaic cells that will produce power from the SunCell reactor. This is a pretty interesting lecture that’s worth watching. He’s projecting they shouldn’t have too much trouble obtaining a 100 kWs from the SunCell in the future, while their initial prototypes will produce around 10 to 30 kWs.

Video 7: BrLP’s Dominic Jones discusses their long term market strategy.

Update 12/14/16:
Brilliant Light put out a new press release yesterday detailing the advisory board that will be working to bring their virtually-free energy generator to commercial launch next year.

December 13, 2016 04:30 AM Eastern Standard Time

CRANBURY, N.J.­­(BUSINESS WIRE)­­ – The Advisory Board consists of senior industry executives and includes Colin Bannon from BT, Bill Maurer from ABM Industries, Ray Gogel, former President of Current Group and US Grid Co., Matt Key, CEO of Everynet and three additional executives from Telecoms, Finance and Legal professions.

“We searched extensively to identify advisors that can help us answer some of the big questions to support our SunCell® commercial launch next year” said Dr. Randell L. Mills, Founder, President and CEO of Brilliant Light Power, Inc. “This is a team of senior executives from future customers, partners and advisory groups that will help us shape what we offer and how we offer it as we prepare to go to market”.

Bill Maurer, SVP from ABM Industries Energy division said “it’s a great opportunity to be part of the team that will launch the technology that will change the way we think about energy in the future”

Matt Key, CEO of Everynet said “Brilliant Light Power has put together a very sophisticated advisory group and they have given us some big questions to consider. The SunCell® technology is an incredible invention and we all look forward to helping the Company in achieving its full potential by transforming the worlds energy markets as we know them”

The Advisory Board will meet monthly and will be advising Brilliant Light Power on its the commercial offerings, launch markets, potential customers and organizational structure the Company will employ to deliver them.

Update 1/2/2017:

CNN Interview

Update 1/13/2017:

BrLP just released a new video today of the SunCell operating above 3000° C in a commercial design. The camera attenuation was up to a factor of 10,560 times to avoid saturation.

Even small increments above 3000° C drastically increase the final power output of the generator because the spectrum shifts more to the right, allowing the TPV cells to harness more of the energy.

Update 4/13/2017:

Latest press release from BrLP

BrLP has achieved automated control of the molten silver levels of the reservoirs of the dual molten metal injectors of its SunCell®. BrLP has also achieved automated control of the SunCell’s® thermal profile. These were the two gating items to a closed commercial SunCell® that can be deployed for field trials of thermal applications followed by electrical unit deployment with further photovoltaic converter development. The video of an excerpt of an electromagnetic pumping test shows the left reservoir overfilled at pumping initiation. The pumping rates automatically adjusted to establish and maintain matching relative levels and caused the molten streams to intersect at the center of the reaction cell chamber. BrLP is optimizing the designs and integrating this technology as it builds the first thermal field trial unit. The photovoltaic cells and cooling technology of the photovoltaic converter have been designed and are in the initial testing phase.
Now that they have automation that allows them to run the cell in a closed system, a prototype generator is very close indeed.

Update 5/31/2017:

New paper submitted for journal publication: Power Determination and Hydrino Product Characterization of Ultra-low Field Ignition of Hydrated Silver Shots. [PDF]

Update 9/20/2017:

Mills presented at the Society for Cable & Telecoms Engineers Energy 2020 conference in Denver, CO. on September 12, 2017. The audience consisted of leading Operating Executives from across the Cable industry. Dr. Mills’ presentation is available in PDF format here.
An updated production timeline was published in the presentation. Presently, BrLP plans to have units in field testing in the 2nd half of 2018, and a commercial launch in the 2nd half of 2019.

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Randy Mills

Message 1 of 54 , Sep 19

Richest 1% now owns half the worlds wealth.pdf

Interesting number:

$280 T
https://www.cnbc.com/2017/11/14/richest-1-percent-now-own-half-the-worlds-wealth.html

World energy commodity cost ~10 T X PE multiplier of 28 = $280 T

Hydrino Technology could be worth more than the world¹s total wealth.
alexjcombs

Sep 19

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Plus, as you very well know, hydrino technology will be the best and biggest example of Jevons paradox of all time. Congratulations on the recent progress!
Ed

Sep 19

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You’ve got a machine that creates wealth with no deleterious side-effects, out of thin air, literally. The central bankers have mechanisms for creating the appearance of wealth out of nothing, with many obscure and unpredictable side-effects. I think people will like yours better.

On 9/19/2018 9:56 AM, Randy Mills rmills@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] wrote:

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James Bowery

Sep 19

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14,000 = 2017 world total energy production in million tons of oil equivalent
8,800 = 1990 ”
It would be interesting to see the trend in world wealth over the same interval. It would also be interesting to see more complete estimates of world energy elasticity.

Here are the only world energy elasticity figures a search on that phrase turned up (page 15):

2001 – 2009

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Ed

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Jevons Paradox applies when there is an improvement with which a resource is utilized. The expectation is that with the amount of the resource, energy, required for usage reduced (due to technological innovation), that the total amount required would drop, but he opposite occurs.
But here, the efficiency with which energy is utilized is expected to drop, due to the reduction in cost, both direct and indirect (such as environmental), so Jevons Paradox does not apply.

On 9/19/2018 11:14 AM, alexjcombs@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] wrote:

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Randy Mills

Sep 20

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Thanks

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Subject: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

Plus, as you very well know, hydrino technology will be the best and biggest example of Jevons paradox of all time. Congratulations on the recent progress!
alexjcombs

Sep 20

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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I suppose I should have just been more succinct: total global energy usage will soar far above current levels as the hydrino technology proliferates.
Randy Mills

Sep 20

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It would also enable new markets such as personal aerial transport that would likely consume more power than all current usages combined.

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Ah, thanks for the clarification. I suppose I should have just been more succinct: total global energy usage will soar far above current levels as the hydrino technology proliferates.
contrarianrob

Sep 21

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Interesting, and rather frustrating, that just as the perfect energy source is looming on the horizon, the perfect energy sink is growing exponentially, that’s bitcoin. Leave it to people to invent a completely useless ‘crypto currency’ mining process that wastes massive amounts of real energy. Imagine a future filled with SunCell powered server farm bitcoin mining operations. Nightmare. Perhaps Dr. Mills can do us a favor and refuse to lease SunCells for bitcoin mining. Please!
James Bowery

Sep 21

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China’s August industrial power consumption up 8.8 pct y/y
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Ed

Sep 21

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{OK. bitcoin is far enough away from CP that we don’t want to start a new thread on this topic. John Farrell, Moderator}

Cryptocurrency is a new industry. It is in direct competition with some of the most powerful, influential and obscured institutions in the world, the central bankers. I remember when Al Gore was telling us that the power supplies that we leave plugged into the wall, inactive, without drawing any power from them, were wasting a vast amount of energy, like more than 10% of electricity used. This was hot air, promoted by that self-appointed guardian of our social conscience. The reality is closer to 1%.
The “news” we receive requires examination and filtering. Propaganda is a real thing, serving hidden purposes. I suggest asking cui bono?, then “how can this be measured?”. The average temperature of the planet is a number bandied about frequently by concerned advocates of climate warming/change/cooling, but the specifics of how those temperatures were measured over such a long span of time, during population explosion; the fact that those thermometers are almost all concentrated in areas of industrialization, road building and heat shedding, are pretty tough to weigh into the calculation of average temperature. The temperature is going to change, in any case, and 0.8C change in 100 years seems pretty stable to me. But, what do I know? I’m not even a politician.
I have no doubt that cryptocurrency mining consumes a lot of power. The computers that run the banking systems, the credit card companies, etc. that provide us with the current fiat monetary system also consume a lot of power. If cryptocurrencies succeed in a big way, the legacy system would fade in significance, saving a lot of power, and I would not mind seeing that. There is reason to suspect that the statements about cryptocurrency power usage may be inflated. Because cryptocurrency is a new technology, it resembles the beginning of auto manufacture, or PC manufacture. After a while, most of the early builders were gone. The great quality improvement of cars and PCs over time is something we all know, and they still can improve vastly, thanks to the application of correct science (GUTCP). Profit margins for cryptocurrency mining have dropped sharply, compared to the early days. Many coins do not use such energy intensive mining practices. Energy efficiency of miners is way up from what it was. In the long term, it is not clear (to me, at least), what kind of energy usage will be required, when limited issue coins have stopped mining new coins, and there is much less competition as the world decides what cryptocurrencies to use. It may wind up using less energy than the legacy banking system.
If you want to attack a big waste of energy (and everything else), start with war-mongering, and examine the links to central banking. Be careful to distinguish between babies and bathwater.

On 9/21/2018 10:06 AM, contrarianrob@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] wrote:

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Randy Mills

Sep 21

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Could use the power to mine asteroids and go back to the gold standard.

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optiongeek

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Mining a single asteroid could saturate the world’s demand for gold and seriously degrade its price. As a store of value I think Bitcoin is far more likely to hold up over time. Of course there are idiots out there who think Quantum Computing is going to render crypto obsolete. But we know better.

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Peter Ruhe

Sep 21

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One interesting side-effect of bitcoin mining was the intense
competition to develop more-efficient parallel processing chips, to
grab more of the mining profits. There was, and maybe still is, a
strong positive feedback loop where bitcoin mining profits fed back
into chip development. There might be spin-offs into more useful
products, similar to how the useless space race had spin-offs.

Perhaps SunCell power will indeed enable economical asteroid mining,
which would start a positive-feedback loop for space travel.
Randy wrote on 2018-09-21 3:29 PM:

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mailpete405

Sep 22

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I wonder if personal aerial transport really would increase energy consumption. Personal aerial transport could be expected to move lighter weight vehicles over considerably shorter distances. Ground based transport over road systems is extremely inefficient just based on circuitous routes with significant additional losses due to friction at the wheels and fuel weight.

The major limiting factors for aerial transport today are combustion engine/fuel weight or battery weight, and the structure to support that weight. A small lightweight power source solves that problem.

More direct aerial travel with efficient directional and velocity stacking at various altitudes has the possibility of making transport, especially personal transport, far more efficient. We’d also be able to recover a significant amount of land currently wasted on small local road systems. That is a lot of bridges, asphalt, cement, road paint, reflectors, and stoplights that would no longer need to be installed and maintained. Severe weather damage recovery could be much faster and more efficient. Daily commute time and traffic accidents could be reduced significantly.

As technology improves, there is still potential for tremendous energy and resource savings, despite access to a cheap and accessible energy source. Having enough copper for the move to all electric motors, as we leave combustion engines behind… that’s the next challenge.
Randy Mills

Sep 22

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Recycle the grid.
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Randy Mills

Sep 22

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Since the dollar is the standard for oil, the new petrodollar could be the hydrino kWh. The value could be very stable. It is pegged to a real commodity just like oil, gold, silver.

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Mining a single asteroid could saturate the world’s demand for gold and seriously degrade its price. As a store of value I think Bitcoin is far more likely to hold up over time. Of course there are idiots out there who think Quantum Computing is going to render crypto obsolete. But we know better.

—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

Could use the power to mine asteroids and go back to the gold standard.

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Randy Mills

Sep 22

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Can also pull gold from the ocean:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritz_Haber

In the 1920s, Haber searched exhaustively for a method to extract gold from sea water, and published a number of scientific papers on the subject. After years of research, he concluded that the concentration of gold dissolved in sea water was much lower than those reported by earlier researchers, and that gold extraction from sea water was uneconomic.[6]:91–98
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Mining a single asteroid could saturate the world’s demand for gold and seriously degrade its price. As a store of value I think Bitcoin is far more likely to hold up over time. Of course there are idiots out there who think Quantum Computing is going to render crypto obsolete. But we know better.

—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

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contrarianrob

Sep 22

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I was not really serious about banning bitcoin mining. Of course you should sell power to anyone who wants to buy it. But the SunCell would really open up the whole solar system to exploration and colonization especially the outer solar system since solar energy is too weak there yet hydrogen is abundant.
James Bowery

Sep 22

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A sound monetary system and political economy has the following operationally defined characteristics. It can be implemented with blockchain technology. However, making it robust in the face of EMP attack requires a fallback system, most likely implemented at the county level.
Citizens shall periodically be issued an equal citizen’s dividend in an amount as set forth in §7 below. Further explanation: “Citizens” are a class of individuals vested with the privileges described herein, and the implied responsibility to defend property rights. At a minimum Citizens are first responders, such as police, deputies, military, firefighters and reserves.
Individuals claiming property rights shall declare them.
The owner has sole authority to transfer his property. (No eminent domain authority.)
The highest escrowed bid for a property right shall be its assessed value.
Owners shall periodically, coinciding with §1, pay demurrage on the assessed value of their properties. The money as high bids in escrow do not pay demurrage.
The demurrage rate shall be established by vote of citizens.
The amount of the citizen’s dividend shall be established by vote of citizens with the intent that the cost of homesteading be held constant. Demurrage paid in excess of that issued in §1 reduces the money supply by the excess amount. Conversely, demurrage paid in deficit to that issued in §1 increases the money supply by the deficit amount. — Further explanation: “Homesteading” is defined as that which provides, at least and on average, replacement reproduction. “Replacement reproduction” is defined as neutral evolutionarily consequence. “Evolutionary consequence” may include any cultural or biological values that citizens consider salient. Homesteading cost is therefore that which is necessary to, at least and on average, maintain intergenerational value.
Patents of invention assigned to the inventor do not pay demurrage.
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jchiefsteward

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Ive mentioned this before on here when the topic was Silver and how to gain access to enough supply. I said at the time this would be possible through transmutations. So I say now that copper could be supplied through transmutations. Russian teams have been specialising in this area and claim to be making progress. Their aim however is to obtain platinum through transmutations as they can make more money. Still copper would be possible.
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Just so you know, I am a keen follower of Mills and BrLP. I am also interested in Lenr. I think both show equal potentail.
marinaskevin

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It might be better to create such an “energy currency” in proportion to installed power rather than creating it in proportion accumulated energy produced. This way the supply of money correlates with the size of the economy, which in turn correlates the most with power, not energy. Also, in a power or energy based money system, people will transact using a form of representative money, and it is way easier to track the growth of installed power as opposed to the cumulative production and waste of energy. Also, a KWH today is worth more than a KWH tomorrow, which in turn is worth more than a KWH the day after tomorrow, and so on. Therefore, a KW of installed power represents not an infinite net present value, but a finite net present value, as required in order to be represented in terms of money.

If the cryptocurrencies are used, there should be a law stating that for every 1 KW of power dedicated to securing the blockchain, the entity responsible must also supply x number of KW. Third-party smart devices and IoT could be used to validate said production. This will prevent cryptocurrencies from overtaking energy consumption. It will also encourage blockchain security to be as decentralized as the electric power used to produce it.
—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

Since the dollar is the standard for oil, the new petrodollar could be the hydrino kWh. The value could be very stable. It is pegged to a real commodity just like oil, gold, silver.

on behalf of “ronnotel@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics]”
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Mining a single asteroid could saturate the world’s demand for gold and seriously degrade its price. As a store of value I think Bitcoin is far more likely to hold up over time. Of course there are idiots out there who think Quantum Computing is going to render crypto obsolete. But we know better.

—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

Could use the power to mine asteroids and go back to the gold standard.

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A good currency is many things, among them
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Randy Mills

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I just glanced at it, but there was prior talk about using bitcoin as a means to establish hydrino power units as a currency. How would that work?

From: James Bowery <jabowery@…>
Date: Saturday, September 22, 2018 at 1:22 PM
To: Society for Classical Physics <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

A sound monetary system and political economy has the following operationally defined characteristics. It can be implemented with blockchain technology. However, making it robust in the face of EMP attack requires a fallback system, most likely implemented at the county level.
Citizens shall periodically be issued an equal citizen’s dividend in an amount as set forth in §7 below. Further explanation: “Citizens” are a class of individuals vested with the privileges described herein, and the implied responsibility to defend property rights. At a minimum Citizens are first responders, such as police, deputies, military, firefighters and reserves.
Individuals claiming property rights shall declare them.
The owner has sole authority to transfer his property. (No eminent domain authority.)
The highest escrowed bid for a property right shall be its assessed value.
Owners shall periodically, coinciding with §1, pay demurrage on the assessed value of their properties. The money as high bids in escrow do not pay demurrage.
The demurrage rate shall be established by vote of citizens.
The amount of the citizen’s dividend shall be established by vote of citizens with the intent that the cost of homesteading be held constant. Demurrage paid in excess of that issued in §1 reduces the money supply by the excess amount. Conversely, demurrage paid in deficit to that issued in §1 increases the money supply by the deficit amount. — Further explanation: “Homesteading” is defined as that which provides, at least and on average, replacement reproduction. “Replacement reproduction” is defined as neutral evolutionarily consequence. “Evolutionary consequence” may include any cultural or biological values that citizens consider salient. Homesteading cost is therefore that which is necessary to, at least and on average, maintain intergenerational value.
Patents of invention assigned to the inventor do not pay demurrage.

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On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 6:39 PM marinaskevin@yahoo.com [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] … This is a degenerate case
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William Miller

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What grid?
The grid will be obsolete in most of our lifetimes… My own, hopefully, included.

Sent from my iPad
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It has been a popular thing to create cryptocurrencies for many specific purposes, such as Dentacoin for dentists. The idea has some appeal, like coupons that various businesses issue, as token currency, as a form of advertisement. Does BrLP want to compete with established cryptocurrencies by creating their own stable of crypto experts, to deal with the regulatory agencies, or rather take advantage of a successful existing cryptocurrency? Is BrLP going to need to advertise using a branded cryptocurrency, when there is literally no competition? No, so why bother with a new token?
What would create a parallel to the petrodollar is if BrLP, like OPEC, decides to simply favor to some degree, payment in a particular cryptocurrency, like a small discount if payment is made in that cryptocoin. Just as everyone used to need USD to get oil, whatever cryptocurrency is favored by BrLP would be in universal demand, a de facto world reserve cryptocurrency. It would allow the buyer to avoid currency exchange cost. I would think that the best move is to not reinvent the wheel, but use the best wheel available, to stay focused on what BrLP does best, science and engineering.
One of the biggest problems of cryptocurrency is that there are so many of them. Bitcoin dominates in terms of capitalization, but not in functionality or utility. It has the name people trust. If BrLP favors a particular cryptocurrency, like with petrodollar, it would be a serious endorsement. If the inventor who brought the world sun in a bottle likes a particular cryptocoin, who would argue?
The designated cryptocoin would explode in value, and readers of this forum would have a way to profit from our support of BrLP, which is really good, as probably most of us (like me) are not able to buy BrLP stock prior to the IPO.
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Randy Mills

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Transmutation requires an atomic reactor and the products are thousands of
dollars for trace amounts:
http://www.perkinelmer.com/category/radiochemicals
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>>The GUTCP enables innovation such as hydrino technology. On inspection innovation drives employment. The US has the most innovation and lowest unemployment. Not much going on in the real third world, and they have the highest unemployment.

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A good currency is many things, among them transportable, or transferrable. A hydrino-kWh lacks a digital linkage, but it qualifies well in most of the categories. Being tied to electrical output, which represents economic activity, would make it inherently elastic in a way that is not politically determined. Acceptance of a hydrino-kWh-cryptocurrency, once the world begins to shift to the use of hydrino technology, would be welcomed by many as a way to de-politicize the exchange of value. It would be at least as gradual as the conversion away from scarce and dangerous carbon- and nuclear-based energies, so it would not add to that de-stabilization. Hydrino technology obsoletes wind-, solar-, and bio-energies, freeing up a lot of human effort for other things. To make the conversion away from fiat would be to gradually remove the same weapon from all governments that use a central bank (no more currency wars that lead to trade wars, and often kinetic warfare), and concurrently reduce scarcity of life’s necessities with hydrino technology. With a lot less desperate people, extremist and terrorist agitators would have many fewer prospects for recruitment.
The challenge of what to do with so much free time is not trivial. Can humans handle a much better life, free from the daily struggle to survive? Fewer jobs would exist, and they would require greater intelligence, so the old problem of how to direct the energy of young men, especially, becomes paramount. We are pretty good at diversions.

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Bob Bell

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Hi Randy,

Rather than transmutation, I really like the idea of ridding the world of toxic wastes by having power so cheap that we can dissociate the waste at the atomic scale and end up with harmless molecules.

Do you view this as a practical application of Hydrino Power technology and atomic/molecular science as you know it?

nailogmij

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Concerning using the electricity provided by the SunCell to mine bitcoin…

Bitcoin miners are susceptible to price swings. Bitcoin can drop 30% in a day. So to reduce risk what some bitcoin miners do of is sell bitcoin mining contracts at a locked in rate. They can mine profitably while pushing off the risk to the investor. For example, an investor can buy 5 years of continuous mining for a flat fee (plus maintenance) and they will received mined bitcoins based on how much “hashpower” they invest in.

Hashpower is a term that investors/consumers use. However, internally the big players also focus on “power” as a metric. Bitcoin mining facilities are usually measures in wattage capability. The more power you have the more hashpower you can generate. So the analogy is that these bitcoins, are created from power, and these contracts for hashes are actually contracts for power. It is still early in the industry but these power/hash/future contracts can be traded between investors.
Randy Mills

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I was thinking along the lines that the US dollar is pegged to the hydrino kWh and we keep the dollar. Once the SunCell mesh network replaces the centralized servers, then security should be high due to the redundant nodes and decentralization.

From: <Jimmy.Winn@…>
Date: Sunday, September 23, 2018 at 1:49 PM
To: <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

Concerning using the electricity provided by the SunCell to mine bitcoin…

Bitcoin miners are susceptible to price swings. Bitcoin can drop 30% in a day. So to reduce risk what some bitcoin miners do of is sell bitcoin mining contracts at a locked in rate. They can mine profitably while pushing off the risk to the investor. For example, an investor can buy 5 years of continuous mining for a flat fee (plus maintenance) and they will received mined bitcoins based on how much “hashpower” they invest in.

Hashpower is a term that investors/consumers use. However, internally the big players also focus on “power” as a metric. Bitcoin mining facilities are usually measures in wattage capability. The more power you have the more hashpower you can generate. So the analogy is that these bitcoins, are created from power, and these contracts for hashes are actually contracts for power. It is still early in the industry but these power/hash/future contracts can be traded between investors.
A Murphy

Sep 23

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Think we are seriously putting several carts before the horse. Still lots of tough engineering, logistics, regulatory stakeholdering to go before a robust, industrial strength, continuous safe energy source arrives at scale.
When that does happen (and it will likely be about 5 years before it starts to dent mature energy markets), a lot of industries and technologies will be disrupted.
The effect of hydrino power will be deeply felt economically, technologically, environmentally, geopolitically and of course will shake academic institutional foundations. These effects are going to be so cross-elastic that it is very hard to predict how things like bitcoin will shake out.

“What is good, Phaedrus, and what is not good, need we ask anyone to tell us these things?”
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Concerning using the electricity provided by the SunCell to mine bitcoin…

Bitcoin miners are susceptible to price swings. Bitcoin can drop 30% in a day. So to reduce risk what some bitcoin miners do of is sell bitcoin mining contracts at a locked in rate. They can mine profitably while pushing off the risk to the investor. For example, an investor can buy 5 years of continuous mining for a flat fee (plus maintenance) and they will received mined bitcoins based on how much “hashpower” they invest in.

Hashpower is a term that investors/consumers use. However, internally the big players also focus on “power” as a metric. Bitcoin mining facilities are usually measures in wattage capability. The more power you have the more hashpower you can generate. So the analogy is that these bitcoins, are created from power, and these contracts for hashes are actually contracts for power. It is still early in the industry but these power/hash/future contracts can be traded between investors.

amack43

Sep 23

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Others are trying to set up an energy based cryptocurrency. Power Ledger in Australia is one that is trying a peer to peer system with “Sparkz”. I’m still not sure what to make of cryptocurrency. It seems it exists to merely create billionaires out of its founders by setting a set amount of original bitcoins or whatever and permit nonsense trading to drive the value up to ludicrous levels without any real value underpinning the pricing. It also permits kidnappers and ransomware virus designers to demand the transfer of money they hope is untraceable.

I haven’t really thought this through but If BrLP was to create a currency, at least it could be linked to the production capacity in kW of Suncells which also ultimately governs the pricing of the kWh. Creating more Suncells would be the equivalent of printing money. Since BrLP owns or intends to own every Suncell, BrLP becomes a global Central Bank with a global currency backed by its ownership of assets that have an immense capital and income value. How they rest of the world would react to that I’m not sure. Perhaps a Global Reserve Bank Company could be set up with BrLP holding a majority of ownership and the remaining stock divided between the Government controlled Reserve Banks of each member country based on their Suncell usage. It might encourage massive and rapid Suncell electrification of the third world as member states install Suncells to get their share of the river of gold from Suncell energy sales. Sadly oil income dependent countries would probably go bankrupt. Shame.
—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

I was thinking along the lines that the US dollar is pegged to the hydrino kWh and we keep the dollar. Once the SunCell mesh network replaces the centralized servers, then security should be high due to the redundant nodes and decentralization.

Ed

Sep 23

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A Murphy is correct that we are focusing on problems that are well into the future, and not knowable. The baby is just getting born, and must learn to crawl, to walk, etc. However, here is food for thought.
The petrodollar (Henry Kissinger’s brainchild) was an effective mechanism for prolonging the existing US dollar world reserve currency status, made necessary by the US going off the gold standard in 1971. The US world reserve currency status was established at the Bretton-Woods conference in 1944, along with the IMF. The reason a world reserve currency is required is to settle accounts in international trade. Unfortunately (or fortunately), there is a privilege for the holder of the reserve currency, as it is the most popular currency, because everybody needs it. The USD was an obvious choice, given the world dominating position held after WWII. History shows that the the countries holding the reserve currency uniformly abuse that privilege, and the US is no exception.
I agree with Randy that the US has a most innovative society, and is the world leader in many respects. It is right for a loyal citizen to support his own country.
The economist Triffin observed a problem that appears inevitable for the holder of the world reserve currency. That country must provide a great deal of extra currency to fill the needs of the entire world to have a money that is “good as gold”, that is universally trusted. The conflict of interest between domestic and international economics tends to wind up with a situation like the US has, “printing” money in exchange for manufactured goods, endlessly, resulting in an eventual revaluation of the currency. We are seeing it now, in currency wars and trade wars, with countries moving away from USD hegemony, setting up trade agreements to bypass the USD, and selling of USD reserves by foreign countries, as well as reclaiming of their gold from US vaults. Pegging the US dollar to hydrino kWh would likely stabilize the USD, for the foreseeable future. Unfortunately, it would not cure the shortsighted tendency that humans have to abuse reserve currency status.
The IMF and World Bank and other international governing economic/financial/monetary institutions are planned to create a world reserve currency in their control, the Special Drawing Rights (SDR), an elite banker’s money. Bitcoin (at least in the minds of some early proponents) rose in popularity initially not as a way to produce fast cash, but as a way to counterbalance the extreme power that is focusing into the hands of such institutions. Cryptocurrencies are a technology, like electronic banking or email, a replacement for antiquated ways of exchanging value. The blockchain is the core algorithmic tool that is finding vast application in creating systems that can create trustworthy systems without government supervision. This can assure valid exchanges of information. Cryptocurrency would be appropriate for the continuous flood of international payments required by the users of hydrino technology lease holders, to help assure reliable payment and uninterrupted service.
I believe this matter deserves careful thought, as it deeply concerned Randy’s predecessor, Isaac Newton, who was Master of the Royal Mint. He introduced reforms that stabilized and enhanced the banking foundations for the British Empire. Perhaps the world is moving past the age of empires, and toward a universal order. The best results will require not only the best minds, but such minds that are universally recognized as such.

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alexjcombs

Sep 24

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The US government is unlikely to permit an explicit peg of the dollar to the hydrino kWh. The US government and banks very much enjoy and indeed rely on the Federal Reserve’s ability to create base money ex nihilo, and the commercial bank’s ability to do the same when they extend loans. A true peg of the dollar to the hydrino kWh would require the surrendering of this ability to create money out of thin air, with severe consequences for a financial system that has come to rely on ever increasing amounts of debt.

I think an implicit relationship to the hydrino kWh is will be the US government’s preferred policy option, and the same plays from the petrodollar playbook will be used. Hydrino technology is the most geopolitically significant to come along since the advent of atomic weapons. The hydrinodollar will likely be viewed as a key pillar of US strategy to remain the dominant global superpower.

It is possible to represent real world assets such as rights to X kWh of hydrino energy on distributed ledger technology such as Bitcoin. One example of how this works can be found here: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Colored_Coins. However, the throughput of these blockchains is currently insufficient to make this practical. For example, depending on transaction size, Bitcoin is only capable of 4-7 transactions per second. Various approaches are being taken to allow greater throughput on distributed ledgers, but these will take time.

In my opinion, the most relevant use case of cryptocurrency for BLP that I’m aware of is mimicking an interesting business model already in use in Africa. There is a digital currency (not a cryptocurrency, as it is centrally controlled) called M-Pesa that is widely used throughout parts of that continent. M-Pesa works via basic feature phones. Money can quickly and easily be sent to any phone number via text message. Various companies lease goods like solar powered lanterns that have embedded cellular chips. Lessees are required to make periodic up front payments to permit continued use of these products. I can see BLP putting this model to good use in countries with poorly developed banking systems and/or poor rule of law. It would make collecting payment far easier and safer, and permit more granular billing than a monthly lease.
James Bowery
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nailogmij

Sep 24

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There is a name for that type of decentralized currency and it’s called an “appcoin” or “utility coin”. Right now there some appcoins that provide a service such as cloud storage, computing power, etc. For example, Filecoin and Storj are app coins that provide file storage on the cloud. If you own or buy some Filecoins you can use these coins to buy some gigabytes of cloud storage.

So you could attach miners to SunCells and have them mine HydrinoCoins. These HydrinoCoins can be sold on the free market. BrLP can now accept these HydrinoCoins in exchange for power. Also, HydrinoCoins can be traded directly between investors, users, utility companies, large countries, etc.

Why would BrLP want to do this instead of just using USD? Well, Mills pointed out that the SunCell network would be completely decentralized so the mining system would also be very decentralized, more so than bitcoin or any other cryptocoin if implemented correctly. That means nothing will be able to take down this coin. If you sell a SunCell you would have to also sell the HydrinoCoinMiner(s) to go with the SunCell. The HydrinoCoinMiners would probably be small at first but I imagine it could be big and shipped in train freights.

HydrinoCoin, I imagine would have to be inflationary so the miners would always mine these coins and the supply would always increase. As for pegging the USD to HydrinoCoin that would have to be a government decision, similar to pegging the price of USD to gold. I would think HydrinoCoin is a hybrid of gold, oil, and bitcoin in terms of a commodity. If everyone used HydrinoCoins then every product found in stores can be priced in HydrinoCoin.
Randy Mills

Sep 25

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Why the need to mine HydrinoCoins? Consider that the technology is worth $trillions, and Brilliant Light owns the intellectual property (IP) rights. It needs $trillions to replace the existing energy infrastructure. So, it buys SunCells, inverters, power conditioning equipment, installations, maintenance, other services, etc. with hydrinodollars wherein the hydrinodollars are accepted by Brilliant Light for hydrino kilowatt hours produced by leased equipment provided and maintained by Brilliant Light. Given the magnitude of the value of possibly $300T, the world converts over to use hydrinodollars for all transactions, and hydrinodollars becomes the reserve currency. In this scenario, Brilliant Light avoids equity financing or selling upfront IP rights to obtain capital to execute commercial deployment of SunCells. In the end, a dollar is the simplest contract for goods and services, and in the same manner hydrinodollars eliminates complex financial contracts and transactions to seamlessly permit commercialization.

on behalf of “Jimmy.Winn@…
Date: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 12:53 PM
To: “SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com” <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

There is a name for that type of decentralized currency and it’s called an “appcoin” or “utility coin”. Right now there some appcoins that provide a service such as cloud storage, computing power, etc. For example, Filecoin and Storj are app coins that provide file storage on the cloud. If you own or buy some Filecoins you can use these coins to buy some gigabytes of cloud storage.

So you could attach miners to SunCells and have them mine HydrinoCoins. These HydrinoCoins can be sold on the free market. BrLP can now accept these HydrinoCoins in exchange for power. Also, HydrinoCoins can be traded directly between investors, users, utility companies, large countries, etc.

Why would BrLP want to do this instead of just using USD? Well, Mills pointed out that the SunCell network would be completely decentralized so the mining system would also be very decentralized, more so than bitcoin or any other cryptocoin if implemented correctly. That means nothing will be able to take down this coin. If you sell a SunCell you would have to also sell the HydrinoCoinMiner(s) to go with the SunCell. The HydrinoCoinMiners would probably be small at first but I imagine it could be big and shipped in train freights.

HydrinoCoin, I imagine would have to be inflationary so the miners would always mine these coins and the supply would always increase. As for pegging the USD to HydrinoCoin that would have to be a government decision, similar to pegging the price of USD to gold. I would think HydrinoCoin is a hybrid of gold, oil, and bitcoin in terms of a commodity. If everyone used HydrinoCoins then every product found in stores can be priced in HydrinoCoin.
nailogmij

Sep 25

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Some crypto coins are “instamined” meaning that all the coins are created at the genesis of their blockchain. There are advantages and disadvantages to a coin being instamined. One prominent instacoin, Ripple, created 100 billion ripples. When a coin is instamined you have to trust the creator of the coin to have only generated 100 billion ripples. When a block is mined like bitcoin, however, the trust is in the proof of the mathematics and cryptography, which can be independently verified by anyone. Bitcoin will only have ~21 million bitcoins and it can be verified. With Ripple, it cannot be verified. Also, since Ripple is not 100% verifiable they have been known to have a large gap within their blockchain database during the early years in its existence. Even though this discrepancy exists Ripple still has a marketcap of $20 billion because investors don’t care. In addition, coins that are usually instamined have centralized servers or a federation of servers to verify monetary transactions. For example, Ripple uses a network of distributed servers for verification. Control of the network relies on anyone who has the authority to run the server, perhaps with by granting permissions with cryptographic private key(s). Oppositely, a mined coin like bitcoin does not require authority or trust, and anyone with mining hardware can run a validation server. Permission is not required.

Probably the easiest strategy for BrLP is to instamine, for example, 1 billion Hydrinocoins. Distribute these coins proportionally to shareholders. This will bypass Wallstreet completely, and it is a good way to raise money very quickly. Cryptocurrency has been known to have 1000x more liquidity than traditional IPOs. The drawback is that the SEC will probably treat this as a security and BrLP will face regulatory push back. Many cryptocoin IPOs have made a lot of money this way and have gotten away with it, so I don’t really advise this unless you are ready to face legal battles.

If you don’t instamine and mine similarly to bitcoin, you are less likely to face legal repercussions because you never distribute coins directly. The free-to-download opensource software distributes the coins using an algorithm and anyone with the hardware resources can mint new coins. This is the harder approach and no other coin has been able to replicate this strategy as successfully as bitcoin.

Randy Mills

Sep 25

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You are missing the point. Bitcoin does not have any value. Its only utility is that it facilities transactions. There is nothing backing it. Hydrinodollars would be backed by assets, the hydrino technology IP rights, worth potentially hundreds of trillions of real dollars. Hydrinodollars would be worth their face value in hydrino kWhs. That value can be exchanged for goods and services or traded for other currencies. The money supply would be limited by the total value of hydrino technology which in time could be more than all the current total wealth in the world. This scenario is much better than gold or US government back currencies due to the lesser total wealth securing the currencies in the latter cases..

From: <Jimmy.Winn@…>
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 9:26 PM
To: <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

Some crypto coins are “instamined” meaning that all the coins are created at the genesis of their blockchain. There are advantages and disadvantages to a coin being instamined. One prominent instacoin, Ripple, created 100 billion ripples. When a coin is instamined you have to trust the creator of the coin to have only generated 100 billion ripples. When a block is mined like bitcoin, however, the trust is in the proof of the mathematics and cryptography, which can be independently verified by anyone. Bitcoin will only have ~21 million bitcoins and it can be verified. With Ripple, it cannot be verified. Also, since Ripple is not 100% verifiable they have been known to have a large gap within their blockchain database during the early years in its existence. Even though this discrepancy exists Ripple still has a marketcap of $20 billion because investors don’t care. In addition, coins that are usually instamined have centralized servers or a federation of servers to verify monetary transactions. For example, Ripple uses a network of distributed servers for verification. Control of the network relies on anyone who has the authority to run the server, perhaps with by granting permissions with cryptographic private key(s). Oppositely, a mined coin like bitcoin does not require authority or trust, and anyone with mining hardware can run a validation server. Permission is not required.

Probably the easiest strategy for BrLP is to instamine, for example, 1 billion Hydrinocoins. Distribute these coins proportionally to shareholders. This will bypass Wallstreet completely, and it is a good way to raise money very quickly. Cryptocurrency has been known to have 1000x more liquidity than traditional IPOs. The drawback is that the SEC will probably treat this as a security and BrLP will face regulatory push back. Many cryptocoin IPOs have made a lot of money this way and have gotten away with it, so I don’t really advise this unless you are ready to face legal battles.

If you don’t instamine and mine similarly to bitcoin, you are less likely to face legal repercussions because you never distribute coins directly. The free-to-download opensource software distributes the coins using an algorithm and anyone with the hardware resources can mint new coins. This is the harder approach and no other coin has been able to replicate this strategy as successfully as bitcoin.

marinaskevin

Sep 25

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So, US dollars for Hydrinos, in preference to Euros or RMB? Possible sanctions if say, Iran, refuses to pay Hydrino energy in US dollars? How will this HydrinoDollar actually exist? Does it even make sense for a world reserve currency to be tied with the economy of a sovereign nation consisting of 5% of the world’s people?
herbert-hafner@gmx.de

Sep 26

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I think this is correct. But there is a problem with really pursuing this path: there is an unexplicable amount of power associated with controlling the world reserve currency. Look what the US is doing to countries that dont want to trade their oil in dollar. You dont want to poke in that hornets nest!

In my opinion it is hard enough to turn all physics upside down. That is generating oposition strong enough. Having the finance sector with their deep political entanglements against you is probably not a good thing to risk.

My personal opinion is that we need a (interest free) currency described by Dr. Mills, but without control of the currency by a company or a state. A currency is infrastructure and infrastructure has to belong to the people. (Disclaimer: I am no communist…I am some kind of socio technocrat 🙂 )
neil_m_harper@hotmail.com

Sep 26

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The growth of distributed ledger technology is inevitable and that it will not be controlled by a single government or company is also inevitable and essential. Development and success of this is a major software engineering challenge – please stick to and solve the engineering challenges of the getting the SunCell running. Indeed this discussion has already attracted the ridicule of the International Toxics Forum and would be perceived as a scam money grab on par with the Deneum crypto scam. Please stick to what you know.

Neil
Randy Mills

Sep 26

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How do you trust that all bit coins are from the founding algorithm and not another, or one shifted by a constant for example? Furthermore, there are an infinite number of coin creation algorithms. For example, I start a stop watch. At each exact unique time point in spacetime of the evolution of the universe a coin is added according to the time t0 + an exact time internal with a bounded number of intervals. How about every interval of position of an object dropping over an exact distance in vacuum? So on and so on. And, in the end the coin is not backed by anything. Hydrino dollars carry the value of energy.

on behalf of “Jimmy.Winn@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics]
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Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 9:26 PM
To: “SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com” <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

Some crypto coins are “instamined” meaning that all the coins are created at the genesis of their blockchain. There are advantages and disadvantages to a coin being instamined. One prominent instacoin, Ripple, created 100 billion ripples. When a coin is instamined you have to trust the creator of the coin to have only generated 100 billion ripples. When a block is mined like bitcoin, however, the trust is in the proof of the mathematics and cryptography, which can be independently verified by anyone. Bitcoin will only have ~21 million bitcoins and it can be verified. With Ripple, it cannot be verified. Also, since Ripple is not 100% verifiable they have been known to have a large gap within their blockchain database during the early years in its existence. Even though this discrepancy exists Ripple still has a marketcap of $20 billion because investors don’t care. In addition, coins that are usually instamined have centralized servers or a federation of servers to verify monetary transactions. For example, Ripple uses a network of distributed servers for verification. Control of the network relies on anyone who has the authority to run the server, perhaps with by granting permissions with cryptographic private key(s). Oppositely, a mined coin like bitcoin does not require authority or trust, and anyone with mining hardware can run a validation server. Permission is not required.

Probably the easiest strategy for BrLP is to instamine, for example, 1 billion Hydrinocoins. Distribute these coins proportionally to shareholders. This will bypass Wallstreet completely, and it is a good way to raise money very quickly. Cryptocurrency has been known to have 1000x more liquidity than traditional IPOs. The drawback is that the SEC will probably treat this as a security and BrLP will face regulatory push back. Many cryptocoin IPOs have made a lot of money this way and have gotten away with it, so I don’t really advise this unless you are ready to face legal battles.

If you don’t instamine and mine similarly to bitcoin, you are less likely to face legal repercussions because you never distribute coins directly. The free-to-download opensource software distributes the coins using an algorithm and anyone with the hardware resources can mint new coins. This is the harder approach and no other coin has been able to replicate this strategy as successfully as bitcoin.
Randy Mills

Sep 26

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This is an academic discussion. Logical, not political at this juncture. See what is possible/practical, then consider politics.

Regarding owner ship. Once we trade hydrinodollars for goods and services, we no longer control them, but we have the obligation to deliver energy. They are just a simplified licensing contract, but have an inherent value, so they could serve to execute other unrelated transactions, just like dollars.
on behalf of “herbert-hafner@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics]”
Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 5:50 AM
To: “SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com” <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

I think this is correct. But there is a problem with really pursuing this path: there is an unexplicable amount of power associated with controlling the world reserve currency. Look what the US is doing to countries that dont want to trade their oil in dollar. You dont want to poke in that hornets nest!

In my opinion it is hard enough to turn all physics upside down. That is generating oposition strong enough. Having the finance sector with their deep political entanglements against you is probably not a good thing to risk.

My personal opinion is that we need a (interest free) currency described by Dr. Mills, but without control of the currency by a company or a state. A currency is infrastructure and infrastructure has to belong to the people. (Disclaimer: I am no communist…I am some kind of socio technocrat 🙂 )
Ed

Sep 26

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The ideal of a cryptocurrency, as outlined in the quasi-mythical Satoshi Nakamoto’s White Paper is a peer-to-peer cash system without any central authority, but with a strict central force, as found in the blockchain. Ideally, it eliminates the political problems associated with a world reserve currency, while preserving the essential aspects of trustworthiness, fungibility, transferability, etc.
The value of anything is rooted in the belief in it. Oil is valuable for obvious reasons, so is IP. They have associated values. Cryptocurrency has value because people believe it can work as a form of currency superior to the fiat units that are empowered with the force of the state (you use fiat to pay taxes, i.e. legal tender). USD ultimately has value because of the coercive power of the state, like all fiat currencies. We believe in the power of the state because it is no joke.
Countries have tried to back their currencies with real estate, but it lacks fungibility, transferability and other qualities. Energy as a currency backing works better than real estate, but it is not a good store of value. It can be stored, but not in your wallet. It would need to be represented, so it always comes back to the need for a currency. The ability of hydrino IP to back currency is in its potential wealth, but in itself, it is not currency.
States will yield their power associated with currency about as willingly as the academic community has yielded to the correctness of GUTCP.
BrLP can charge a fixed amount in USD. That is a peg that would support the USD. It is that simple. If BrLP only accepts USD, then the USD will tend to retain powers associated with a world reserve currency because anybody who wants energy will need to exchange their currency for USD. That may have great advantages for the US, but Triffin’s Dilemma will bite hard. It leads to world war. So, in addition to accepting USD, BrLP could accept payment in all currencies, but then BrLP is in the business of controlling the relative values of all the world’s fiat money, in the big arbitrage game. That much power would be not left unmolested by states. It is better to focus on science and technology.
What happens if, in addition to accepting USD, BrLP accepts a particular Nakamoto cryptocurrency (or perhaps a few of them), possibly at a slight discount to the USD? This would stabilize the value of these cryptocurrencies dramatically. For every transaction conducted in a Nakamoto type of cryptocurrency, the power of politics would be bypassed. Taxes would still be paid, but the exercise of capital through currency would shift to a new form, an apolitical form, free from the hazards of Triffin’s Dilemma. This would not impair the fiat power of any state in particular. It would not reduce state power unpredictably or suddenly. It would be a slow disarmament of all central banks.
BrLP would be able to change policy at any time.

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Randy Mills

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>>I don¹t see any restriction on hydrinodollars being exchanged for
>>anything as long as it is not contraband.

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From: Ed <waldo234@…>
Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 11:14 AM
To: <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

The ideal of a cryptocurrency, as outlined in the quasi-mythical Satoshi Nakamoto’s White Paper is a peer-to-peer cash system without any central authority, but with a strict central force, as found in the blockchain. Ideally, it eliminates the political problems associated with a world reserve currency, while preserving the essential aspects of trustworthiness, fungibility, transferability, etc.
The value of anything is rooted in the belief in it.

>>That seems to be an inherent instability.
Oil is valuable for obvious reasons, so is IP. They have associated values. Cryptocurrency has value because people believe it can work as a form of currency superior to the fiat units that are empowered with the force of the state (you use fiat to pay taxes, i.e. legal tender). USD ultimately has value because of the coercive power of the state, like all fiat currencies. We believe in the power of the state because it is no joke.
Countries have tried to back their currencies with real estate, but it lacks fungibility, transferability and other qualities. Energy as a currency backing works better than real estate, but it is not a good store of value. It can be stored, but not in your wallet. It would need to be represented, so it always comes back to the need for a currency. The ability of hydrino IP to back currency is in its potential wealth, but in itself, it is not currency.
States will yield their power associated with currency about as willingly as the academic community has yielded to the correctness of GUTCP.
BrLP can charge a fixed amount in USD. That is a peg that would support the USD. It is that simple. If BrLP only accepts USD, then the USD will tend to retain powers associated with a world reserve currency because anybody who wants energy will need to exchange their currency for USD. That may have great advantages for the US, but Triffin’s Dilemma will bite hard. It leads to world war. So, in addition to accepting USD, BrLP could accept payment in all currencies, but then BrLP is in the business of controlling the relative values of all the world’s fiat money, in the big arbitrage game. That much power would be not left unmolested by states. It is better to focus on science and technology.

>>BrLP has to have a plan for commercialization on a scale never undertaken by any company.

What happens if, in addition to accepting USD, BrLP accepts a particular Nakamoto cryptocurrency (or perhaps a few of them), possibly at a slight discount to the USD? This would stabilize the value of these cryptocurrencies dramatically. For every transaction conducted in a Nakamoto type of cryptocurrency, the power of politics would be bypassed. Taxes would still be paid, but the exercise of capital through currency would shift to a new form, an apolitical form, free from the hazards of Triffin’s Dilemma. This would not impair the fiat power of any state in particular. It would not reduce state power unpredictably or suddenly. It would be a slow disarmament of all central banks.
BrLP would be able to change policy at any time.

>>Cryptocurrency has no intrinsic value and has no backing. It could go to zero instantly. You eliminate the government, but you eliminate the government backing which has a lot of cash flow and wealth control.

On 9/25/2018 9:51 PM, marinaskevin@… [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] wrote:

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alexjcombs

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{OK. I came home tonight to a slew of bitcoin posts this evening. I will post all of those that came in today. However, no more will be approved for quite a while! As long as I am moderator! John Farrell, Moderator}
I’d like to respectfully offer up a different point of view regarding the value of bitcoin (little “b” for the token). It is best to think of bitcoin as a digital commodity that permits the token holder to interact with the Bitcoin (Big “B” for the network/ledger) blockchain. The Bitcoin blockchain is a globally shared, immutable, permissionless database. There are a vast array of non-monetary uses for such a shared database. For example, one can run data through a hash function, and anchor the hash function output into the blockchain by making a bitcoin transaction. That hash function output will now be permanently and irrevocably anchored into the Bitcoin blockchain. It may not be immediately obvious, but this ability to write data to a global immutable database offers substantial economic benefit for certain use cases that were not previously possible. Bitcoin, being the most secure and longest running blockchain, is currently preferred for these use cases.

All value is subjective and determined across two dimensions, utility and scarcity. The Bitcoin blockchain currently has significant non-monetary utility in addition to its monetary utility, and this utility is growing over time. Scarcity comes in the form of the credibly fixed supply of bitcoin tokens. Thus, we have a network and associated token which is both useful and scarce. While it is currently best to think of bitcoin as a digital commodity, it may be that over time it evolves into a true money, because it has properties that a good money has: durability, portability, homogeneity, divisibility, recognizability, scarcity, liquidity, etc. I believe the credibly fixed supply to be the most important, as this seems to be the only stable equilibrium in the coming future of ferocious competition between different cryptocurrencies aspiring to be global money. Assuming that backing with tangible physical objects is necessary for value creation is a mistake in an increasingly digital world. The significant non-monetary use cases of bitcoin as a digital commodity for interacting with the Bitcoin blockchain, coupled with the favorable monetary characteristics of the bitcoin token, have caused individual actors to subjectively attach value to bitcoin and are the reason that the “market cap” of the network has grown to north of $100 billion over the last 9 years.

I expect this growth to continue, and believe Bitcoin miners will flock to hydrino technology. Electricity cost is the main determinant of mining profitability. It is hard to know with certainty, but total Bitcoin network energy consumption is estimated to currently be 50+ TWh per year and growing rapidly. Industrial Bitcoin miners may be a great group to approach as the MHD SunCell comes to market; they have an insatiable appetite for cheap power.

I agree with your assessment of the value of BLP’s IP but would like to point out two serious potential issues with the idea of issuing hydrinodollars.

To the extent that BLP has control over the hydrinodollar network, which I believe would be necessary to regulate issuance of hydrinodollars in proportion to hydrino kWh availability, BLP would be required to comply with KYC/AML laws; potentially a huge burden. Failure to comply with these laws yields very stiff penalties. BLP would likely be required to get money transmitter licenses in all 50 states, all of which have different regulatory and capital requirements. The same sorts of compliance issues would apply the world over. The hydrinodollar might initially be a security per the 4 pronged Howey Test, with further regulatory burden. BLP could end up composed largely of compliance personnel. Decentralized cryptocurrencies avoid such problems because there is no single point of failure; there is no office to which men with 3 letter jackets can pay a friendly visit. If BLP went this route, I would expect many visits of this nature.

Second, I see US government help in global IP enforcement to be crucial to the long-term success of BLP. As I mentioned the other day, I think this is the most geopolitically important invention since atomic weapons. Many countries that currently have strong intellectual property laws may decide to rewrite the rulebook as a global race to adopt hydrino technology begins, compelled by economic necessity. It seems to me that BLP will want and need the full might of the US military discouraging this sort of behavior. Attempting to subvert the US dollar as the global reserve currency would not only rouse extreme ire from the US government, to the detriment of BLP’s ability to conduct business, but if successful, would impair the US government’s ability to make sure that BLP’s IP rights are respected.
Randy Mills

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I agree that we should strive to coincide our interests with those of the US government.

Accepting energy payment in dollars would substitute for the vacuum from decline in the petrodollar effect.

The hydrinodollar could be structured as a licensing contract. It could be a convenient way to trade future energy delivery as a form of currency without being a currency or a security. Gold and mineral or oil extraction rights can be bartered for example.

A BrLP mesh network could provide a competing service to the blockchain.

From: <alexjcombs@…>
Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2018 at 11:46 AM
To: <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

I’d like to respectfully offer up a different point of view regarding the value of bitcoin (little “b” for the token). It is best to think of bitcoin as a digital commodity that permits the token holder to interact with the Bitcoin (Big “B” for the network/ledger) blockchain. The Bitcoin blockchain is a globally shared, immutable, permissionless database. There are a vast array of non-monetary uses for such a shared database. For example, one can run data through a hash function, and anchor the hash function output into the blockchain by making a bitcoin transaction. That hash function output will now be permanently and irrevocably anchored into the Bitcoin blockchain. It may not be immediately obvious, but this ability to write data to a global immutable database offers substantial economic benefit for certain use cases that were not previously possible. Bitcoin, being the most secure and longest running blockchain, is currently preferred for these use cases.

All value is subjective and determined across two dimensions, utility and scarcity. The Bitcoin blockchain currently has significant non-monetary utility in addition to its monetary utility, and this utility is growing over time. Scarcity comes in the form of the credibly fixed supply of bitcoin tokens. Thus, we have a network and associated token which is both useful and scarce. While it is currently best to think of bitcoin as a digital commodity, it may be that over time it evolves into a true money, because it has properties that a good money has: durability, portability, homogeneity, divisibility, recognizability, scarcity, liquidity, etc. I believe the credibly fixed supply to be the most important, as this seems to be the only stable equilibrium in the coming future of ferocious competition between different cryptocurrencies aspiring to be global money. Assuming that backing with tangible physical objects is necessary for value creation is a mistake in an increasingly digital world. The significant non-monetary use cases of bitcoin as a digital commodity for interacting with the Bitcoin blockchain, coupled with the favorable monetary characteristics of the bitcoin token, have caused individual actors to subjectively attach value to bitcoin and are the reason that the “market cap” of the network has grown to north of $100 billion over the last 9 years.

I expect this growth to continue, and believe Bitcoin miners will flock to hydrino technology. Electricity cost is the main determinant of mining profitability. It is hard to know with certainty, but total Bitcoin network energy consumption is estimated to currently be 50+ TWh per year and growing rapidly. Industrial Bitcoin miners may be a great group to approach as the MHD SunCell comes to market; they have an insatiable appetite for cheap power.

I agree with your assessment of the value of BLP’s IP but would like to point out two serious potential issues with the idea of issuing hydrinodollars.

To the extent that BLP has control over the hydrinodollar network, which I believe would be necessary to regulate issuance of hydrinodollars in proportion to hydrino kWh availability, BLP would be required to comply with KYC/AML laws; potentially a huge burden. Failure to comply with these laws yields very stiff penalties. BLP would likely be required to get money transmitter licenses in all 50 states, all of which have different regulatory and capital requirements. The same sorts of compliance issues would apply the world over.. The hydrinodollar might initially be a security per the 4 pronged Howey Test, with further regulatory burden. BLP could end up composed largely of compliance personnel. Decentralized cryptocurrencies avoid such problems because there is no single point of failure; there is no office to which men with 3 letter jackets can pay a friendly visit. If BLP went this route, I would expect many visits of this nature.

Second, I see US government help in global IP enforcement to be crucial to the long-term success of BLP. As I mentioned the other day, I think this is the most geopolitically important invention since atomic weapons. Many countries that currently have strong intellectual property laws may decide to rewrite the rulebook as a global race to adopt hydrino technology begins, compelled by economic necessity. It seems to me that BLP will want and need the full might of the US military discouraging this sort of behavior. Attempting to subvert the US dollar as the global reserve currency would not only rouse extreme ire from the US government, to the detriment of BLP’s ability to conduct business, but if successful, would impair the US government’s ability to make sure that BLP’s IP rights are respected.
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Hi All
I recommend this and the links(yes broken clock Krugman is cogent here, otherwise a broken window fool) for some background on Bitcoin, public ledger and their spawn.
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You are missing the point. Bitcoin does not have any value. Its only utility is that it facilities transactions. There is nothing backing it. Hydrinodollars would be backed by assets, the hydrino technology IP rights, worth potentially hundreds of trillions of real dollars. Hydrinodollars would be worth their face value in hydrino kWhs. That value can be exchanged for goods and services or traded for other currencies. The money supply would be limited by the total value of hydrino technology which in time could be more than all the current total wealth in the world. This scenario is much better than gold or US government back currencies due to the lesser total wealth securing the currencies in the latter cases..

From: <Jimmy.Winn@…>
Date: Tuesday, September 25, 2018 at 9:26 PM
To: <SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [SocietyforClassicalPhysics] Re: Hydrino Technology

Some crypto coins are “instamined” meaning that all the coins are created at the genesis of their blockchain. There are advantages and disadvantages to a coin being instamined. One prominent instacoin, Ripple, created 100 billion ripples. When a coin is instamined you have to trust the creator of the coin to have only generated 100 billion ripples. When a block is mined like bitcoin, however, the trust is in the proof of the mathematics and cryptography, which can be independently verified by anyone. Bitcoin will only have ~21 million bitcoins and it can be verified. With Ripple, it cannot be verified. Also, since Ripple is not 100% verifiable they have been known to have a large gap within their blockchain database during the early years in its existence. Even though this discrepancy exists Ripple still has a marketcap of $20 billion because investors don’t care. In addition, coins that are usually instamined have centralized servers or a federation of servers to verify monetary transactions. For example, Ripple uses a network of distributed servers for verification. Control of the network relies on anyone who has the authority to run the server, perhaps with by granting permissions with cryptographic private key(s). Oppositely, a mined coin like bitcoin does not require authority or trust, and anyone with mining hardware can run a validation server. Permission is not required.

Probably the easiest strategy for BrLP is to instamine, for example, 1 billion Hydrinocoins. Distribute these coins proportionally to shareholders. This will bypass Wallstreet completely, and it is a good way to raise money very quickly. Cryptocurrency has been known to have 1000x more liquidity than traditional IPOs. The drawback is that the SEC will probably treat this as a security and BrLP will face regulatory push back. Many cryptocoin IPOs have made a lot of money this way and have gotten away with it, so I don’t really advise this unless you are ready to face legal battles.

If you don’t instamine and mine similarly to bitcoin, you are less likely to face legal repercussions because you never distribute coins directly. The free-to-download opensource software distributes the coins using an algorithm and anyone with the hardware resources can mint new coins. This is the harder approach and no other coin has been able to replicate this strategy as successfully as bitcoin.
nailogmij

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I will not argue whether or not bitcoin has value. The debate on whether or not bitcoin has intrinsic value has been going on for over 8 years. I can only state the facts which is that bitcoin currently has a marketcap of $112B so there are people who have decided to give it added value by buying bitcoins.

In your case I think you think hydrinodollars have value because you think it can function as a form of money and also as a security. It is like money because BrLP will accept hydrinodollars as payment in exchange for power; and it is similar to a security because owning hydrinodollars could be a way to identify shareholders. Lots of things can go wrong if these dollars are not implemented correctly. If hydrinodollars have a $300T marketcap, that means one company would be in control of the backbone of financial transactions. If something awful were to happen to this company, heaven forbid, a govt shutdown, a terrorist attack or a nuclear strike, then $300T worth of marketcap could disappear if the accounts were hosted on centralized servers. Gold, silver, and maybe bitcoin is more protected from such catastrophic events.

There is only so much wealth and wealth generation. If hydrinodollars did reach a 300T marketcap, it would first require a transfer of wealth from fiat, stocks, gold, property, derivatives, etc. into hydrinodollars. People would need to sell fiat, gold, and property for hydrinodollars. BrLP’s tech would also have to generate new wealth. I would think the SunCell is a good candidate for causing the singularity.

—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

You are missing the point. Bitcoin does not have any value. Its only utility is that it facilities transactions. There is nothing backing it. Hydrinodollars would be backed by assets, the hydrino technology IP rights, worth potentially hundreds of trillions of real dollars. Hydrinodollars would be worth their face value in hydrino kWhs. That value can be exchanged for goods and services or traded for other currencies. The money supply would be limited by the total value of hydrino technology which in time could be more than all the current total wealth in the world. This scenario is much better than gold or US government back currencies due to the lesser total wealth securing the currencies in the latter cases..
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Some crypto coins are “instamined” meaning that all the coins are created at the genesis of their blockchain. There are advantages and disadvantages to a coin being instamined. One prominent instacoin, Ripple, created 100 billion ripples. When a coin is instamined you have to trust the creator of the coin to have only generated 100 billion ripples. When a block is mined like bitcoin, however, the trust is in the proof of the mathematics and cryptography, which can be independently verified by anyone. Bitcoin will only have ~21 million bitcoins and it can be verified. With Ripple, it cannot be verified. Also, since Ripple is not 100% verifiable they have been known to have a large gap within their blockchain database during the early years in its existence. Even though this discrepancy exists Ripple still has a marketcap of $20 billion because investors don’t care. In addition, coins that are usually instamined have centralized servers or a federation of servers to verify monetary transactions. For example, Ripple uses a network of distributed servers for verification. Control of the network relies on anyone who has the authority to run the server, perhaps with by granting permissions with cryptographic private key(s). Oppositely, a mined coin like bitcoin does not require authority or trust, and anyone with mining hardware can run a validation server. Permission is not required.

Probably the easiest strategy for BrLP is to instamine, for example, 1 billion Hydrinocoins. Distribute these coins proportionally to shareholders. This will bypass Wallstreet completely, and it is a good way to raise money very quickly. Cryptocurrency has been known to have 1000x more liquidity than traditional IPOs. The drawback is that the SEC will probably treat this as a security and BrLP will face regulatory push back. Many cryptocoin IPOs have made a lot of money this way and have gotten away with it, so I don’t really advise this unless you are ready to face legal battles.

If you don’t instamine and mine similarly to bitcoin, you are less likely to face legal repercussions because you never distribute coins directly. The free-to-download opensource software distributes the coins using an algorithm and anyone with the hardware resources can mint new coins. This is the harder approach and no other coin has been able to replicate this strategy as successfully as bitcoin.
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And, I hope, it’s democratic allies. More than ever we need to strengthen the military, commercial, political and technological alliances between the democracies.
—In SocietyforClassicalPhysics@yahoogroups.com, <rmills@…> wrote :

I agree that we should strive to coincide our interests with those of the US government.
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hydrino, HydrinoEconomy, Philosophy

Hydrinodollars! Welcome to the hydrino economy planet Earth!

“I saw this one coming a fucking mile away! Pardon my French. You know why? When you truly understand what ‘money’ is… what it’s true purpose and function is… you know that ‘money’ is the resistor to the amount of the Suns energy in human society (the amount of any stars energy in any planetary society)… and like I said…
“for the first time in human history, the power of the Sun has been brought down to Planet Earth”
… .. saw this one coming a mile away! 😉

Randy Mills
Sep 25 7:09 PM

You are missing the point. Bitcoin does not have any value. Its only utility is that it facilities transactions. There is nothing backing it. Hydrinodollars would be backed by assets, the hydrino technology IP rights, worth potentially hundreds of trillions of real dollars. Hydrinodollars would be worth their face value in hydrino kWhs. That value can be exchanged for goods and services or traded for other currencies. The money supply would be limited by the total value of hydrino technology which in time could be more than all the current total wealth in the world. This scenario is much better than gold or US government back currencies due to the lesser total wealth securing the currencies in the latter cases…

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