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Earliest Known Description of the Hydrino? John W. Campbell – Invaders from the Infinite

“Why is it, Morey, that an electron falls through the different quantum energy levels, falls successively lower and lower till it reaches its ‘lowest energy level,’ and can radiate no more. Why can’t it fill [maybe should be fall?] another step, and reach the proton? Why has it no more quanta to release? We know that electrons tend to fall always to lower energy level orbits. Why do they stop?”

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Posted by flakingnapstichEarliest Known Description of the Hydrino

It’s a little known fact that Randy Mills was NOT the originator of the idea of a “Hydrino.” That honor appears to go to none other than author John W. Campbell in his book Invaders from the Infinite.

“Why is it, Morey, that an electron falls through the different quantum energy levels, falls successively lower and lower till it reaches its ‘lowest energy level,’ and can radiate no more. Why can’t it fill [maybe should be fall?] another step, and reach the proton? Why has it no more quanta to release? We know that electrons tend to fall always to lower energy level orbits. Why do they stop?”

The heroes then use this idea as the basis for a weapon that is eventually used to destroy a planet. While this particular Campbell book isn’t exactly his best work from a narrative point of view, it has received consistent praise since publication for its realistic and creative use of speculative science. If Mills WERE to provide a means of creating Hydrinos that could be independently replicated by other researchers it would end the debate about if Invaders from the Infinite constitutes hard science fiction or not. The book also includes a plausible depiction of using Hydrinos to create a super-weapon capable of destroying all life on a planet, so proving Hydrinos are real might be a Pyrrhic victory for life on earth as a whole. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

CSurveyGuy4d

It’s worth pointing out that the 1/n thing was probably suspected at least in 1897:

http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1897ApJ…..6..233R

I’m not sure whether it was understood that the spectrum implies energy level transition n -> m though.

I found an earlier paper detailing the Hydrogen spectrum, but it doesn’t seem to recognise or mention the 1/n – 1/m formula – I have no idea whether it was known then:

https://www.jstor.org/stable/pdf/108885.pdf

bit inconclusive, but thought i’d post anyway3

baronofbitcoinSoCP4d

From Wikipedia

In 1913, Danish physicist Niels Bohr postulated that electrons resided in quantized energy states, with their energies determined by the angular momentum of the electron’s orbit about the nucleus. The electrons could move between those states, or orbits, by the emission or absorption of photons of specific frequencies. By means of these quantized orbits, he accurately explained the spectral lines of the hydrogen atom.

Bohr probably had similar thoughts of electron going to lower states.1

flakingnapstich4d

Bohr probably had similar thoughts of electron going to lower states.

Did he ever describe the prospect of an electron going below the theorized ground state? If not, then the literary example stands as the oldest depiction.1

baronofbitcoinSoCP4d

Well, Bohr invented/discovered/theorized the ground state. Probably many scientists have thought about it or maybe even wrote it down in a sentence. Mills had the math to back it up.1

flakingnapstich4d

Probably many scientists have…

I’d love to see examples of it. The history of this idea is interesting.

optiongeekSoCP3d

If anyone hasn’t read it, Holverstott gives a really excellent survey of the history surrounding the development of the Bohr model.

You all laugh… fucking Ghostbusters bruv!

C

4 thoughts on “Earliest Known Description of the Hydrino? John W. Campbell – Invaders from the Infinite”

  1. Because, at the lowest electron energy fractional level (137)… ONE THREE FUCKING SEVEN!!! 🙄… THE ELECTRON ORBITSPHERE IS TRAVELLING AS CLOSE TO THE SPEED OF LIGHT AS POSSIBLE!
    And as Einstein stated, nothing can travel faster than the speed of light.
    Duh!
    Shall I repeat that? At the lowest possible fractional energy reserve, 137, the electron is traveling at close to the speed of light as is humanly witnessed.
    137… 137… 137!

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